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Intro to Evidence: “I’ve Got Proof!!!” (or In Support of the Humble Document)

Fairly often, I deal with people going through a divorce who tell me “…and I have proof that he/she is cheating on me, I have a [text/voice-mail/email/telephone recording]!”   Lets face it, most people reading this probably are not lawyers and probably don’t know that the rules of evidence exist, much less what they are.  So I’m going to give a short primer on “proof” and what it means to you.

First, proof is not of much use unless you are going to have a trial.  Sure, you can threaten that you have it, and try to use it as leverage in bargaining for a settlement, but no judge will ever consider it for anything if you are not going to have a trial.  So unless you’re in trial mode (for some god-awful reason) the Judge is NOT going to consider your proof.

Second, proof is completely worthless if it is not in an admissible form.  This means the proof cannot be hear-say (hearsay is an out of court statement offered to prove the truth of the matter asserted, try and wrap your brain around that), or it must fall within one of the exceptions to the hear-say rule (there are simply too many to list here, you’ll need to go check a textbook for all the exceptions), it must be properly introduced to the Court (this is called laying a foundation, check the same textbook you looked at for exceptions to the hear-say rule, there’s probably a chapter or two devoted to introduction of evidence), it must then be offered into evidence and will be subject to voire dire by the opposing attorney (yup, check the text book for that too).  Once you jump through all these hurdles, your proof may, or may not be entered into evidence.   But you’re not finished…

Your proof will not mean too much if it is not relevant.  Your proof (whatever it may consist of) can be as iron-clad as the Tommy Lee-Pam Anderson sex tape… but if it is not relevant to your case, it is useless and will not be admitted to evidence.  So what does that mean?  It means that if you have a video of your soon-to-be-ex-husband bopping his secretary on your kitchen table while holding a copy of the New York Times up to the camera (to prove the date), and he is the one suing you for divorce and you agree that you want to be divorced and grounds are not at issue in the proceedings, the video is irrelevant and gets you nothing.

But, you say, “Chuck… that’s absurd!  I’ve got the old man bopping his secretary on MY kitchen table, and you tell me it’s worthless???  How can this be???”  I say to you, CORRECT!  The video would certainly be relevant to proving grounds of adultery, but if grounds are not at issue, the tape is irrelevant, and thus would not likely be admitted into evidence at trial.

Remember, in New York State, a divorce consists of the divorce itself PLUS dealing with the ancillary issues of child custody and visitation, equitable distribution, child support, and spousal maintenance.  The video would certainly show that soon-to-be-ex-hubby has poor taste, and probably that he’s a big jerk.  But it has little to no bearing on any of the ancillary issues (unless he was bopping away with the kids there to see it, or some other unlikely series of events unfolded around the incident).  In New York, you don’t get a bigger piece of the marital pie in equitable distribution because you were cheated on.  You might get a bigger chunk if there was wasteful dissipation or conduct so egregious that it “shocks the conscience” (as the Court of Appeals might say), but the hypothetical scenario here would not meet that criteria (yes, I know that saddens many of you).

Another thing to think about with your “proof” is how do you prove what it actually is?  So you have a picture of the dented bed-frame that your wife smashed with a baseball bat when she was trying to smash your head in, in a drunken rage?  That’s GREAT!  but the best evidence rule says you should have brought in the whole damned bed-frame.  Forget that for a second and lets talk about the picture.  The smashing happened in 1995, and you took the picture last week.  Bad news, you can only go back 5 years in a divorce.  More bad news, your wife is probably going to say “Oh no, that dent was from the time we moved into the new apartment and he dropped it going up the stairs.”   So what do you really have in that picture?  Have you got proof that your wife went nuts and tried to kill you with a baseball bat?  Nope.  But you have some excellent evidence that you have a dented bed-frame.

Lets talk about wire-tapping crimes for a minute!!!  It seems like everyone wants to tape their spouse these days.  Maybe it’s because of the easy access to electronics, maybe it’s because the moon is full, I just don’t know.  In New York, you can tape a telephone conversation so long as one of the parties to the conversation is aware that it is being taped.  I still don’t usually recommend it, for a host of reasons.  These taped conversations always sound contrived; they rarely wind up being the smoking gun that one thinks they are; and a judge NEVER wants to be bothered to listen to them at trial.  Nevertheless, I’m positive some of you will go to the Spy Outlet and put the tape recorder on your phone anyway.  So please realize, that you are going to be committing all kinds of crimes if you leave the tape recorder on the line when you are not on it, or you secretly record a conversation between your spouse and her paramour that you are not a party to.  In the end, the best advice, is don’t do the tape recording thing… it’s usually not worth the time, unless your attorney specifically tells you to do it.

Text messages– a personal favorite of mine.  So you have text messages of your husband saying he is hiding millions of dollars in a Swiss bank account and you’ll never get it.  Those will be tough to get into evidence.  First, how do you put the text message into evidence?  Sure you can get the phone records, but they only keep text messages on the servers for about 48 hours, then they are deleted.  Are you going to give the judge your phone and say “here they are, I’d like to admit my phone into evidence”???  Kiss your phone goodbye.  And besides, the judge is not going to take your phone into evidence and try to retrieve text messages from it, judges have better things to do.  Next, how do you prove who sent the text message?  Your husband is going to say he lent the phone to his buddy who sent the text as a joke.  You weren’t there to see him press the buttons, so how exactly can you prove it was your husband who sent the text?  The answer is, you probably can’t, and your proof won’t come into evidence.

Emails– see text messages.  But emails are even better, now the guilty husband also gets to say that a hacker stole his password and he hasn’t had access to that email address in two months.  Try and disprove that one in a courtroom with a judge who is late for a tee time.

All things being equal, I think that the vast majority of judges don’t really want to have to consider your proof by [voice-mail/text/email/video].  They would rather hear the testimony of the parties and see your bank records that were properly subpoenaed and submitted and prove that there is $705.49 in your checking account.  Documents are tangible, they are neat, they are something judges are familiar with, and they don’t require legal acrobatics to get them into evidence.  Judges, it seems by nature, don’t want to break new ground and be the first in the county to let text messages into evidence at trial.  They seem to dislike the necessity of setting up a TV in the Courtroom, unless it’s going to be an incredibly exciting and relevant show!  So, I advocate for the humble document.  When it comes to proof, a written document, that can be authenticated (ex. a letter signed by your husband, with the date on it, to his bank saying transfer all my assets to that Swiss account) remains the gold standard in evidence.

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5 Questions For Your Prospective Divorce Attorney

The worst thing in your life is currently taking place… you have been served with divorce papers.

What do you do next?  First thing, find an attorney.  Not just any old attorney.  Not your brother-in-law’s best friend from college who practices corporate law and will do your divorce as a favor.  Not the lawyer you went to with your spouse three years ago to have your joint wills drawn.  And for the love of all that is holy, don’t randomly open the phone book to the attorney pages and pick the first number you see!

You need someone to guide you through a very difficult and complex time that will definitely change the rest of your life.   First, ask around.  Have friends or relative who are divorced?  What attorney did they use?  How was their experience dealing with that attorney?  I’m certain, with 43% of marriages ending in divorce, you’ll find someone who can recommend an attorney.  If not, call your local bar association and they will be happy to recommend a competent attorney who has experience in divorce.

So you find a few names and decide to make a few phone calls.  But what do you ask a prospective attorney to find out if he or she is right for you?  I suggest the following:

  1. Have you ever represented someone in a divorce before? This may seem silly, but you need an attorney who has some experience to guide you through what could be the most important decisions of your life.
  2. Will you take my case to trial if necessary? It is amazing the number of attorneys who will be happy to file your divorce for you, and the minute your spouse puts up an objection to anything, they tell clients that they only do no-fault or default divorces and will not take the case to trial.  You need someone with the competence and knowledge to take your case to trial, if it becomes necessary.
  3. Will you be doing the work on my case, or will your associate who is 1 year out of law school? Some of the bigger firms like to pull the old “bait and switch” routine.  You meet with the big gun, who’s been doing matrimonial law for three or four decades, you sign the retainer, and the next thing you know, the big gun is gone and you got the water pistol instead.  A fresh young face straight out of law school, and you’re how he or she is going to get experience in matrimonial law!
  4. What about the fees and costs? So you’ve been presented with a retainer agreement to sign.  Does the retainer that you pay include costs and fees, or will you have to come up with those separately?  There is a filing fee with the court, cost of deposition transcripts, cost to have a process server serve the papers, motion filing fees, the list goes on and on.  Are any of those fees included in the retainer or will you have to come up with more money for them?  What is the estimate you can expect of the costs and fees?
  5. When was the last time you were in court on a divorce? Perhaps the most telling of all.  Does the attorney answer “this morning,” “yesterday,” “a few weeks ago,”  “a few months ago,” or “well, I’ve never actually been to court on a divorce before… but don’t worry, it’s no different than suing someone for a dog bite!”  I think this is rather self explanatory, so I won’t belabor the point.

There are a number of other questions you can ask a potential divorce attorney to get a feel for their level of competence.  For instance, are they a Fellow of the American Academy of Matrimonial Lawyers (AAML)? Are they a member of their state or local bar association matrimonial and/or family law committee?  When was the last time they attended a Continuing Legal Education (CLE) program having to do with divorce?  I’m sure you can come up with more on your own.

The moral of this story, is when shopping for a divorce lawyer, ask questions.  If the prospective attorney can’t answer them, or makes you feel uncomfortable, move on to someone else.

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“No-Fault” Divorce: The Holy Grail

In New York State, one must have “Grounds” to obtain a divorce.

Grounds for divorce are set forth in our Domestic Relations Law Section 170  and include only:

  1. Cruel and Inhuman Treatment -  A “catch all” that is often abused and sometimes misused;
  2. Abandonment – for more than one year…  may also encompass “constructive abandonment”  a/k/a refusal of sexual relations;
  3. Confinement of Defendant to prison – self explanatory;
  4. Adultery – which is surprisingly difficult to prove since spouses are incompetent to testify against each other concerning this; or
  5. Parties have lived apart pursuant to a judgment of separation or separation agreement for at least one year-  sometimes referred to as a “conversion” divorce.

In order to obtain a divorce in New York, only one of the above grounds will do the trick, nothing else.  The party seeking the divorce must prove, to a jury if necessary, that he or she has sufficient grounds for divorce.  And the longer parties are married, the greater the proof necessary to demonstrate sufficient grounds.  Simply saying “We don’t get along any more and we both want a divorce” is insufficient.

To complicate matters, if there are no grounds for divorce, there can be no equitable distribution of property.  What does that mean in English?  It means that if Wife Wanda files for divorce against Husband Bob, and Bob has a great job, lots of income, and all the assets are in his name, and Wanda has little more than her dislike of Bob’s bottle collection as her grounds, Bob gets to have a trial and challenge her to prove her grounds.  But why would Bob want to do that, you might say?  Because if Bob defeats Wanda in a grounds trial, he will not be forced to give her any of the money he has hidden away in a Swiss bank account, or to give her the house owned in his name, or to provide her with the Mustag GTO that he just bought while leaving her with the ’82 Camry.  Bob can effectively hold Wanda over the economic barrel.  When this happens, Wanda is usually willing to give up what would normally be her fair share of the assets in exchange for Bob not challenging her grounds for divorce.  I tend to think of this as legalized blackmail, but perhaps that is being too harsh…

You may have noticed there is no “irreconcilable differences” in that list of grounds.  New York is, I believe, the only state in the union that does not have a “no-fault” divorce provision, such as irreconcilable differences.  There is an outdated mode of thought in New York that the State has a vested interest in the marriage relationship.  Personally, I feel that vested interests in marriage are strictly the business of the people involved in that marriage and the State has no business forcing two people who can’t stand each other to remain together.  I leave it to religion to make moral determinations, those ar enot for me.

There has been a push in the past decade to bring New York in line with the rest of the country and provide a no-fault ground for divorce, but a law has yet to pass.  There is currently a bill in the New York State Assembly which would add “irreconcilable differences” to the list of grounds for divorce.  I am all for it!  The time has come for New York to get in line with the rest of the country and give people a way out when the love is gone and there is no going back.

A grounds trial is a horrific beast to watch.  I’ve seen them, and they are not pretty.  The plaintiff parades a line of witnesses across the stand to say what a horrible creature the defendant is.  The defendant parades a line of witnesses across the stand to say what a wonderful person he or she is and explain away the allegations of the plaintiff.  In the process, both people are irrevocably scarred, any chance of dealing civilly with the other is burnt to ash, and the State has thus preserved the “sanctity” of marriage.

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