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Who Gets the Dog After the Divorce?

Who Gets the dog when couples split?

In New York State, as in most others, pets are generally considered to be property, and are treated as such.  This means that in the course of a divorce, the pet is valued and split between the parties in Equitable Distribution.

But what does that mean?  In plain English, there won’t be any doggy visitation schedule set down.

The dog will go to one of the parties, or it will be sold and the proceeds of the sale split between the parties.  If the dog was an adorable mutt rescued by the ASPCA and adopted by the formerly happy couple, there probably will not be much value to be split.  If the little doggie is a purebreed, or maybe a Spudz McKenzie, the dog could be worth a considerable sum! In these cases, the dog must be valued, and if one party is going to keep the dog, that party must buy out the other party’s interest in the dog. So if Spot is worth $20,000.00, and Molly is going to keep Spot, Molly is going to have to cough up $10,000.00 to Fred in the course of the divorce (assuming there is no reason to unequally split the value of Spot).

The same holds true for the award winning Gila Monster, the Siamese Cat, and even Joe the Gerbil. But the reality of the situation is that the Courts don’t put much of a value on pets, with the exception of extraordinary circumstances. And if a party wants to value a pet, and the other party does not agree with that value, an expert will have to be retained to testify as to the value of the animal. Now, if the pet means so much that the issue of who gets to keep the pet goes to a trial, I can tell you from experience that judges HATE these types of issues and will do just about ANYTHING to get out of sitting through a Hearing about how much you love Fluffy and your soon-to-be-ex refused to do the kitty litter.

As usually holds true in a divorce situation, attempting to settle the matter between the parties is the best course of action for all involved.  Though Judges are bound to hear all the testimony, and review all the evidence about who should get Fido (and I am sure Judges do their level best to make the decision the he or she feels is right), the Judge could be going back into chambers and flipping a coin for all I know!  Why risk it?  Make and agreement and settle the issue yourselves.

 

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Who gets the Gold Medal?

Lindsey Vonn is getting divorced.

Lindsey was married to Thomas Vonn, a former racer on the US ski team, also served as Lindsey’s chief adviser, in 2007.
In 2010, (during the marriage) Lindsey won a Gold Medal in the Winter Olympics.

So, who gets to keep the Gold Medal? In New York State, any assets acquired by either party during the course of the marriage is subject to equitable distribution. If the marriage were to be dissolved in New York, what would happen to the medal?

Certainly Lindsey was the person who won the medal, but didn’t her husband, who was her “chief adviser” and an Olympic skier himself contribute to her winning?
Gold is worth a lot of money right now. Maybe the medal should be sold, or melted down and sold for the gold value alone and the proceeds split.
Should her husband be entitled to anything at all relating to the Gold Medal, even though she may not have won the medal without his advice and assistance?

At the end of the day, and if the divorce were to be handled in New York, there is no doubt that the medal would be deemed a marital asset and subject to equitable distribution. There is also a colorable claim by the husband to some interest in the medal. But I think Lindsey would likely be permitted to keep the medal (possibly with a credit to the husband for some amount of money as his interest).

What do you think?
Would the outcome be different if the husband had won the medal?

See what happened to boxer Shane Mosley’s three title belts in his California Divorce.

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Mosley loses title belts in divorce

 

 

 

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Boxer Shane Mosley just got the decision on his divorce… his ex-wife gets to keep 3 of his title belts, one of which will go to each of his three sons as they turn 18.

Mosley is getting divorced in California, a community property state.  Here in New York State, where we have equitable distribution, I tend to think he would be allowed to keep the belts, as he paid for them, literally, with blood, sweat and tears.

I think this case really highlights the difference between community property and equitable distribution states.  What do you think should have happened to the belts?

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Intro to Evidence: “I’ve Got Proof!!!” (or In Support of the Humble Document)

Fairly often, I deal with people going through a divorce who tell me “…and I have proof that he/she is cheating on me, I have a [text/voice-mail/email/telephone recording]!”   Lets face it, most people reading this probably are not lawyers and probably don’t know that the rules of evidence exist, much less what they are.  So I’m going to give a short primer on “proof” and what it means to you.

First, proof is not of much use unless you are going to have a trial.  Sure, you can threaten that you have it, and try to use it as leverage in bargaining for a settlement, but no judge will ever consider it for anything if you are not going to have a trial.  So unless you’re in trial mode (for some god-awful reason) the Judge is NOT going to consider your proof.

Second, proof is completely worthless if it is not in an admissible form.  This means the proof cannot be hear-say (hearsay is an out of court statement offered to prove the truth of the matter asserted, try and wrap your brain around that), or it must fall within one of the exceptions to the hear-say rule (there are simply too many to list here, you’ll need to go check a textbook for all the exceptions), it must be properly introduced to the Court (this is called laying a foundation, check the same textbook you looked at for exceptions to the hear-say rule, there’s probably a chapter or two devoted to introduction of evidence), it must then be offered into evidence and will be subject to voire dire by the opposing attorney (yup, check the text book for that too).  Once you jump through all these hurdles, your proof may, or may not be entered into evidence.   But you’re not finished…

Your proof will not mean too much if it is not relevant.  Your proof (whatever it may consist of) can be as iron-clad as the Tommy Lee-Pam Anderson sex tape… but if it is not relevant to your case, it is useless and will not be admitted to evidence.  So what does that mean?  It means that if you have a video of your soon-to-be-ex-husband bopping his secretary on your kitchen table while holding a copy of the New York Times up to the camera (to prove the date), and he is the one suing you for divorce and you agree that you want to be divorced and grounds are not at issue in the proceedings, the video is irrelevant and gets you nothing.

But, you say, “Chuck… that’s absurd!  I’ve got the old man bopping his secretary on MY kitchen table, and you tell me it’s worthless???  How can this be???”  I say to you, CORRECT!  The video would certainly be relevant to proving grounds of adultery, but if grounds are not at issue, the tape is irrelevant, and thus would not likely be admitted into evidence at trial.

Remember, in New York State, a divorce consists of the divorce itself PLUS dealing with the ancillary issues of child custody and visitation, equitable distribution, child support, and spousal maintenance.  The video would certainly show that soon-to-be-ex-hubby has poor taste, and probably that he’s a big jerk.  But it has little to no bearing on any of the ancillary issues (unless he was bopping away with the kids there to see it, or some other unlikely series of events unfolded around the incident).  In New York, you don’t get a bigger piece of the marital pie in equitable distribution because you were cheated on.  You might get a bigger chunk if there was wasteful dissipation or conduct so egregious that it “shocks the conscience” (as the Court of Appeals might say), but the hypothetical scenario here would not meet that criteria (yes, I know that saddens many of you).

Another thing to think about with your “proof” is how do you prove what it actually is?  So you have a picture of the dented bed-frame that your wife smashed with a baseball bat when she was trying to smash your head in, in a drunken rage?  That’s GREAT!  but the best evidence rule says you should have brought in the whole damned bed-frame.  Forget that for a second and lets talk about the picture.  The smashing happened in 1995, and you took the picture last week.  Bad news, you can only go back 5 years in a divorce.  More bad news, your wife is probably going to say “Oh no, that dent was from the time we moved into the new apartment and he dropped it going up the stairs.”   So what do you really have in that picture?  Have you got proof that your wife went nuts and tried to kill you with a baseball bat?  Nope.  But you have some excellent evidence that you have a dented bed-frame.

Lets talk about wire-tapping crimes for a minute!!!  It seems like everyone wants to tape their spouse these days.  Maybe it’s because of the easy access to electronics, maybe it’s because the moon is full, I just don’t know.  In New York, you can tape a telephone conversation so long as one of the parties to the conversation is aware that it is being taped.  I still don’t usually recommend it, for a host of reasons.  These taped conversations always sound contrived; they rarely wind up being the smoking gun that one thinks they are; and a judge NEVER wants to be bothered to listen to them at trial.  Nevertheless, I’m positive some of you will go to the Spy Outlet and put the tape recorder on your phone anyway.  So please realize, that you are going to be committing all kinds of crimes if you leave the tape recorder on the line when you are not on it, or you secretly record a conversation between your spouse and her paramour that you are not a party to.  In the end, the best advice, is don’t do the tape recording thing… it’s usually not worth the time, unless your attorney specifically tells you to do it.

Text messages– a personal favorite of mine.  So you have text messages of your husband saying he is hiding millions of dollars in a Swiss bank account and you’ll never get it.  Those will be tough to get into evidence.  First, how do you put the text message into evidence?  Sure you can get the phone records, but they only keep text messages on the servers for about 48 hours, then they are deleted.  Are you going to give the judge your phone and say “here they are, I’d like to admit my phone into evidence”???  Kiss your phone goodbye.  And besides, the judge is not going to take your phone into evidence and try to retrieve text messages from it, judges have better things to do.  Next, how do you prove who sent the text message?  Your husband is going to say he lent the phone to his buddy who sent the text as a joke.  You weren’t there to see him press the buttons, so how exactly can you prove it was your husband who sent the text?  The answer is, you probably can’t, and your proof won’t come into evidence.

Emails– see text messages.  But emails are even better, now the guilty husband also gets to say that a hacker stole his password and he hasn’t had access to that email address in two months.  Try and disprove that one in a courtroom with a judge who is late for a tee time.

All things being equal, I think that the vast majority of judges don’t really want to have to consider your proof by [voice-mail/text/email/video].  They would rather hear the testimony of the parties and see your bank records that were properly subpoenaed and submitted and prove that there is $705.49 in your checking account.  Documents are tangible, they are neat, they are something judges are familiar with, and they don’t require legal acrobatics to get them into evidence.  Judges, it seems by nature, don’t want to break new ground and be the first in the county to let text messages into evidence at trial.  They seem to dislike the necessity of setting up a TV in the Courtroom, unless it’s going to be an incredibly exciting and relevant show!  So, I advocate for the humble document.  When it comes to proof, a written document, that can be authenticated (ex. a letter signed by your husband, with the date on it, to his bank saying transfer all my assets to that Swiss account) remains the gold standard in evidence.

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New York’s “No Fault” Divorce Bill

It seems that every year, the New York Legislature tries, and fails, to pass a “No-Fault” divorce bill.

This year is no different.  There have been different versions running around the Assembly and the Senate, both known as the Divorce Reform Act of 2010 (Assembly Version versus Senate Version).

The long and short of it is this:

  1. There will be a new ground for divorce in New York (to be set forth in Domestic Relations Law (DRL) § 170 (7)) as being :”The relationship between Husband and Wife has broken down irretrievably for a period of at least six months, provided that one party has so stated under oath.”  This amounts to “no-fault” inasmuch as it does not require one party to prove fault on the part of the other, as has traditionally been required in New York.
  2. There is a new provision providing for the formulaic calculation of Temporary Maintenance awards amending DRL § 236-B.
  3. In order to opt-out of the statutory formula, a specific statutory waiver must be included in the order or agreement similar to that used to opt-out of the Child Support Standards Act (CSSA).
  4. There are additional considerations enumerated for the Court to look at, including one that may bring enhanced earnings claims (O’Brien claims) within the terms of the statute.
  5. There would be a rebuttable presumption that counsel fees are to be awarded to the less-monied spouse, on a timely basis, pendente lite.

So what does all that mean in English?  It means that New York State is trying to move into the 20th Century (NOTE:  the rest of the world currently lives in the 21st Century) in terms of divorce law.

The most interesting part of the proposed legislation is perhaps the formula propounded by the legislature to determine temporary maintenance (that’s alimony to the rest of the world).  The calculation goes something like this:

  1. Take 30% of the monied spouse’s adjusted gross income and subtract from it 20% of the non-monied spouse’s adjusted gross income (adjusted gross income is defined in the bill similar to the definition set forth in the CSSA).
  2. Multiply the adjusted gross income of the monied spouse by 40% and subtract from this sum the non-monied spouse’s adjusted gross income.
  3. Choose the lesser of the two sums from numbers 1&2 and that is your presumptively correct amount of temporary maintenance.
  4. The above applies up to an income cap of $500,000 (as if anyone in Western new York will need to worry about that).
  5. The duration of the temporary maintenance is to be determined by the Court “…by consideration of the length of the marriage.”  (please don’t ask, because I don’t know what that means).
  6. If the Court finds the presumptively correct amount of maintenance to be unjust or inappropriate, the Court can deviate from the presumptively correct amount by considering any or all of 17 enumerated factors and setting forth in a written Order the presumptively correct amount, the factors it considered in adjusting that amount, and the reasons why it adjusted that amount.  (The written findings cannot be waived by the Court, the parties, or the attorneys).
  7. The parties can opt-out of the presumptively correct amount in a written agreement or oral stipulation so long as it includes certain waiver language set forth in the statute.

And the question everyone is going to want the answer to:  Will this new legislation give me a change in circumstances sufficient to go back and get my maintenance changed?  NO!  The text of the bill specifically states that it will not.

One of the more interesting provisions of the bill, (in my humble opinion) is the fact that it directs the Court to consider “The contributions and services or the party seeking temporary maintenance as a spouse, parent, wage earner, and homemaker and to the career or career potential of the other party.”

This seemingly brings the enhanced earnings claims (which have been a creature of case-law under O’Brien and its progeny) into the realm of statute and with one stroke of the pen changes the nature of an enhanced earnings claim from equitable distribution to maintenance.  The biog deal here is that distributive awards are not taxable, but maintenance is includable as income to the person receiving it and deductable to the person paying it.  I’m interested to see what will become of this if the bill is ever signed into law; which brings us back to my original comments…

The State of New York still has no “No-Fault” divorce law and the Governor has not, as of this date, signed the Divorce Reform Act of 2010 into law.

Knock Knock… Whose there?

No-fault divorce… No-fault divorce who?

No-No-fault divorce in New York, that’s who!

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Paging Dr. O’Brien… Enhanced Earnings Claims

New York State is a funny place to get a divorce…  it is so generous!  In 1985, Dr. O’Brien divorced his wife.  Mrs. O’Brien, being the smarty pants that she was (or maybe that her attorney was the smarty pants)decided that she would seek a distribution of her husband’s newly acquired medical license in equitable distribution.  In English, she thought she should be paid for all the money the good doctor would make over the course of his working life by virtue of the fact that he got a medical license during the marriage.  Mrs. O’Brien’s theory was that she had contributed to him getting that license by cooking, cleaning, raising the kids, and generally enabling his studies and supporting him through medical school.  The New York Court of Appeals (our highest Court) bought it and agreed that a medical license is distributable in a divorce.  See O’Brien v. O’Brien.

Thee O’Brien case opened the door in new York State for enhanced earnings claims.  Basically, if one spouse earns a degree or professional license during the course of the marriage, the other spouse has a claim to some portion of the enhanced earnings capacity that flows from that degree or license.  Doctors, lawyers, nurses, licensed massage therapists BEWARE!

So what is an enhanced earnings capacity and how does this O’Brien claim work?  Well, the degree or license must first be valued by an expert.  That expert will project out from the U.S. Government mortality tables what the owner’s lifetime working expectancy is, what the projected earnings are over that lifetime, and what the projected earnings would be for a person who had a similar education prior to the marriage, but not the advanced license or degree.  The difference in the figures is the projected enhanced earnings, which is then reduced to present dollar value  (there’s a lot more to it, and it really does take an expert to value, but this simplified version will suffice for now).

OK, so the degree has been reduced to present value… now what?  The spouse is not entitled to 100% of that degree (in most cases) but probably something less than %50 of the present value.  Either the parties to the divorce settle on a percentage, or the Court will hold a trial on the matter, and determine the appropriate percentage after hearing about all the contributions of the spouses toward the degree and considering all relevant circumstances.  In the Fourth Department (Western New York, where I practice), the percentage is usually somewhere between 10-20%.  Downstate, in the New York City area (generally the Second Department) there have been some recent cases where 0-15% have been awarded.  The trend seems to be moving to awarding smaller percentages lately.

So we have a present dollar value, and we know what percentage of that the spouse is entitled to, how do we go about distributing it?  Generally, the parties will try to work out a settlement of some sort; perhaps credits against other assets, or a payment plan.  If the parties cannot work out a settlement, the full, lump sum of the enhanced earnings is due and payable immediately upon rendering of the divorce decree.  Harsh, I know.  Or a windfall, if you’re on the receiving side.  But the Courts recognize that people generally don’t have tens of thousands of dollars to just hand over, from earnings they will not realize for perhaps another 30 years!  The Court will often make the enhanced earnings award payable over a number of years (with interest).

I understand, conceptually, the logic in making enhanced earnings distributable in divorce.  I am not, however, a proponent of the concept.  Granted, some spouses do make major contributions to the education of the other, and they should realize the fruits of their labors.  But all too often, it seems that both parties are working people, one is often holding down one or even two jobs and going to school at the same time, and the majority of the effort put into that enhanced earning is due to the efforts of the degree owner.  Perhaps that is why the current trend is a decrease in the awards?  Only time will tell, but enhanced earnings is definitely an interesting and much debated topic in New York matrimonial law.

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What About the House???

In the course of a Divorce, the one asset that often causes much consternation is the house.  Who gets it?  Does it have to be sold?  Can he buy me out?  The questions are many… but so are the solutions!

The biggest asset in any marriage is usually the house.  If the parties don’t own a house, but lease or rent, there is nothing for a Court to consider in equitable distribution and there is one less thing to fight over.  But houses come in all shapes and sizes; some are acquired before the marriage by one spouse or another; some are inherited; some are purchased during the marriage.   The issues to be determined, or settled, in a divorce are:

  1. Is the house a marital asset?  Meaning was it purchased during the marriage, or perhaps improved to some extent or transferred during the marriage.
  2. What portion of the house is a marital asset?  Houses often have mortgages attached to them.  The portion of the house that is a marital asset is really the equity in the house (the value of the house less the outstanding mortgage/home equity line of credit/ etc.) which was accrued during the marriage.
  3. Is there a separate property claim to the house?  Did one spouse buy the house before the marriage?  If so, there may be a separate property claim to funds expended in the purchase of the house before the parties were married.
  4. What are we going to do with the house?  Are the parties going to sell it and somehow split the proceeds (or shortfall, under the worst of circumstances)?  Will one party buy out the equity of the other and keep the house?  Maybe an arrangement can be reached where one party remains in the house until the children reach a certain age and then the house is sold and the proceeds distributed.

These are just a few of the questions that need to be answered before any decision can be reached, by a Court or by the parties themselves, as to what is going to happen to the house.  If the house is sold and the proceeds split, the parties, or the Court, must decide whether there will be an even split, or maybe more of the proceeds will go to one spouse than the other.  Will there be credits from one party to the other for things like mortgage payments that were made after the divorce was filed that the other spouse failed to contribute to, or tax bills or utility bills and carrying costs during the divorce?

The value of the house is often a sticking point with divorcing spouses.  One party will usually want to minimize the value, if he or she is seeking to buy out the other party’s interest, and the other party will seek to maximize the value of the house to increase the buyout.  If the house is sold to a third party, the issue takes care of itself and the sale price is the value.  Certainly, issues are often raise that one party wants to sell the house to his brother for $10.00 which the other party generally will not agree to, and the Courts do entertain issues like that when considering wasteful dissipation of assets.  On the other hand, the parties can often agree to have an independent appraisal of the house done and agree to use whatever figure the house appraises at.

There do arise circumstances where one party seeks to remain in the house until such time as children are grown, or finish high school, or whatever the case may be.  The parties can agree to such an arrangement with the proceeds of the sale to be distributed at a later date.  I have personally found that local Courts would rather not Order, after a trial in a contentious matter that cannot be settled, that one party may remain in the house for a period of time.  While it is within the Court’s power to do so, and an achievable result under the right circumstances I just don’t see it happen that often.

Perhaps the most difficult obstacle to overcome in trying to reach a settlement with regard to a house is financing.  The parties may agree on the sale price, credit to one side or the other, the buyout price, and all the associated issues.  But when it comes time for one party to actually buy out the other, and transfer title from joint names to sole ownership, our country’s economic downturn rears its ugly head.  if there is a 30 year mortgage with both parties on the note, the party being bought out will not want to remain liable for the mortgage for the remaining 20 years.  The party buying out the other will have to refinance and somehow remove his or her spouse from the mortgage obligation.  While they may have been earning a total of $100,000 per year as a married couple, they each only make $50,000 as singles.  The difference, together with a less than stellar credit score can make it extremely difficult, if not impossible, to refinance the house by one party alone.  Sometimes this hurdle can be overcome if a co-signer can be found for the new mortgage, but not everyone has a relative or friend willing to go out on that limb.  With luck, the strangle-hold that lenders currently have on credit will subside a bit with time and make things easier.  For now, difficulties refinancing are a fact of life that cannot be overlooked.

There can be no doubt that dealing with a house is one challenging aspect of a divorce.  One should always seek advice of a competent attorney to provide guidance on all the potential consequences of selling, or even contemplating a transfer of the marital residence.  The factors to consider are simply too complex for the average John and Jane Smith on the street to really grasp the far reaching issues and ramifications.

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5 Myths About Divorce in New York

There are a lot of misconceptions about Divorce in New York State.  People hear things from their brother in Pennsylvania, and their old friend from high school who got divorced 10 years ago, and are willing to take their word for it on how things will work out.  Here are a few common myths and the lowdown on how things really work:

  1. The Mother always gets the kids:  Not quite.  In New York, there is no preference for the Mother to have custody of the children over the Father.
  2. The Father has to pay child support no matter what:  Actually, the non-custodial parent generally pays child support to the custodial parent.  If the Father is the custodial parent, barring certain additional considerations, the Mother will often be required to pay child support to the Father.
  3. If we get divorced, my spouse gets half of everything:  Actually, New York is an “Equitable Distribution” state, not a “Community Property” state.  This means that assets and debts are distributed according to what is “equitable” not just a quick division of half.
  4. I can get a divorce for irreconcilable differences:  No you can’t.  There are only certain grounds for divorce in New York and irreconcilable differences is not one of them.
  5. At least  my pension is safe, my spouse can’t get to that:  Wrong.  A pension accrued during the course of a marriage is considered marital property to the extent it was accrued during the marriage.  Pensions are often distributed in a divorce by way of a QDRO (Qualified Domestic Relations Order).

In New York, the courts generally want to do what is fair, or equitable between the parties in a divorce.  Sometimes old myths prove true, though usually not for the reasons that one might think.  New York is still stuck in the age of the dinosaurs in some respects (like no “no-fault” divorce statute) but is rather progressive in others.  I personally think that equitable distribution is a more equitable way (pun intended) to distribute property and debt than everyone taking half, regardless of whether they ran up a $50,000 credit card bill 2 months prior to filing for divorce.

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Intro to New York Courts

This is my first foray into the world of blogging!  Go me!

I’m going to try to address this blog toward developments, issues, and oddities of matrimonial and family law in the State of New York.  It’s an ever changing field, sometimes on a daily basis.  Now you may be asking, “who the heck are you and why are you blogging about New York matrimonial and family law… and what exactly is matrimonial and family law?”  Those are good questions!

I am Chuck Messina, father of 2, husband of 1, mediocre hockey player, and attorney extraordinaire (licensed in New York).  I live in Buffalo New York, and I have had the privilege of working for some of the finest matrimonial and family law practitioners around.  I enjoy my chosen field, though it is not for those with a weak stomach, and I genuinely enjoy talking about it.

Matrimonial law is, generally speaking, the law of divorce, and all that goes with it.  This field encompasses grounds for divorce, equitable distribution of property (and debts, to the chagrin of many), custody of children, visitation issues, child support, spousal maintenance and all ancillary matters.

Family law kind of goes hand in hand with matrimonial law.  Family law runs the gamut from paternity, custody and visitation, to family offenses, PINS (Persons In Need of Supervision) Petitions right through adoption, child support and guardianship.

In New York, only the Supreme Court (our trial level court) has jurisdiction to hear a divorce proceeding.  The Supreme Court is a court of nearly unlimited jurisdiction and can hear controversies in regard to any matrimonial or family law issue.

On the other hand, the Family Court is a court of limited jurisdiction.  It may only hear matters that are specifically set forth in the New York State Constitution, or a relevant statute, such as the Family Court Act.  Family Court may not, for instance, hear an action for divorce.

With regard to certain matters, the Supreme Court and the Family court have concurrent jurisdiction.  This means that both courts are able to hear matters, such as custody of a child, or child support matters.

I think this is a good first step in my blogging career, and I hope it provides a little insight into the court system in New York State for those lacking familiarity with it.

Next up, the New York Domestic Relations Law (DRL) and the Family Court Act (FCA), recent changes and new requirements.

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